Tactics were discussed for a map by using ATC. It is a great program, I can not wait for the new edition. After that some proceeded to play. ACC1 was full so it was hard to get in. Once most of us got in, things, again, turned bad. A certain hungarian clan entered (same as yesterday) and decided to change the map, not once but 4 times, until they got their desired El Alamain, so they could have their pleasure on this -well- balanced map. Of course they continued with their passion, which is that the whole clan is on one side, at least eight of them (of course that makes the game very enjoyable). I am quite happy that they have their pleasure. Their behaviour truly shows their clan_s values. Iglocska and I quit after the map was changed the fourth time, Svindler and Tompi continued with their battle.